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Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:55 pm
by jwocky
Hi,

can someone explain something to me. If a plane has 5670 nm range and ETOPS180, does that mean, she can stay even three hours more in the air if something comes up in mile 5669? And if so, at which altitude and which speed? Or, in other words, how much more needs a plane really if it is labeled with 5670nm range?

J.

Re: Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:17 am
by KL-666
Etops is about the furthest you can be away of landing. So etops 180 means you have to stay within 180 miles of any rw. Etops comes in to play, when you do oceanic flights, over land it is never a problem.

Kind regards, Vincent

Re: Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:03 am
by jwocky
Wait, 180 minutes or 180 miles?
And does that mean, a plane having 5670nm is justified for falling out of the sky at 5700?

Re: Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:24 am
by Octal450
@JWOCKY

Yes.......


IDK

Re: Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:31 am
by SHM
Its 180min.

The minute distance is calculated using the aircraft’s speed with one engine inoperative in still air (no wind).

SHM

Re: Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:48 am
by KL-666
My mistake, it is minutes, not miles indeed. As SHM says, the distance to the nearest airport should be observed in case of engine faillure. The plane is certified for that distance on one engine.

Kind regards, Vincent

Re: Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:26 pm
by bomber
I was the electrical designer of the etops test bed for the trent 1000 used on the dreamliner whilst at Royces....

Not to blow my own trumpet just saying.

Re: Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:14 pm
by jwocky
Ooookaaaayyy, I am seriously thinking to build a test situation for that ...

Re: Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:16 pm
by IAHM-COL
bomber wrote:I was the electrical designer of the etops test bed for the trent 1000 used on the dreamliner whilst at Royces....

Not to blow my own trumpet just saying.


Quite impressive Simon!!!!

Re: Range ... and ETOPS

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:20 pm
by jwocky
So yeah, can't find any quiet air here ... but at least, I can find 3 hours with 1 engine as long as I don't run out of fuel.