United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

[T-URBO]

Hello
I am abit concerned on the organization of the airspace around London. EGKK, EGLL and EGSS are so close together that having separate APP/DEP controllers for each airport is not ideal and there will be a lot of stepping on each others toes. What I propose is that the airspace below FL195 is divided into sectors and the controller of that sector controls all approaches and departure for all three airports for that sector.

Here a diagram of the TMA structure:
http://www.mantma.co.uk/pdf/eg_enr_6_2_1_11_en.pdf

From what I understand from reading previous posts:
ATC1337 - EGKK TW/GD
ATC411 - EGKK AP
oscar6662 - EGLL AP/TW/GD
ATCJay - EGSS AP/TW/GD

I am not sure what the best way to dived it yet, I am still looking over the VATSIM and IVAO procedures.

[IM-RAN]

Count me in, I'll see what I can do for Festival 2016 Fall.
Will the ATC and Flight plans be published flightgear-atc.alwaysdata.net

[jwocky]

Here is something for a mini game: We use an airport in France, Belgium or the Netherlands as base and have an air bridge to fly in edible food ... no kidding!

[T-URBO]

Here is something for a mini game: We use an airport in France, Belgium or the Netherlands as base and have an air bridge to fly in edible food ... no kidding!

I will be ATCing at the Netherlands

[IAHM-COL]

Actually, in Kansai, I saw an early arrival from the Phillipines bringing Imports of Fish into Japan

It was an small cargo Peep-Tweet!


[Valuable sushi resources]

[T-URBO]

Actually, in Kansai, I saw an early arrival from the Phillipines bringing Imports of Fish into Japan

It was an small cargo Peep-Tweet!


[Valuable sushi resources]

Wrong Thread BTW.

[IAHM-COL]

Romeo Bravo Oscar, Sqwak seven five zero zero...

[IAHM-COL]

Hello

***What I propose is that the airspace below FL195 is divided into sectors and the controller of that sector controls all approaches and departure for all three airports for that sector.

Here a diagram of the TMA structure:
http://www.mantma.co.uk/pdf/eg_enr_6_2_1_11_en.pdf

I completely second T-URBO here. I think since the controller density is potentially really high in London, sticking to real life hand-off proccedures, and particularly clarifying airspace boundary space for all directly involved is going to be extremely critical.


(but real fun -- London Overload!)

[Octal450]

@T-URBO @Israel
I am OK with being APP for mutiple, the question is if the othere are?

[oscar6662]

Yah that Is a good point. How to make LONDON work. i was thinking that there are tooo much ATC's in a little point that is: EGLC, EGSS, EGKK, EGLL (Luton. I dont remember the code) and maybe I am forgeting a lot of "little" airports (with all the respect ). Yah one think that can be an option is to have a center without appr, but here comes the discussions who gets that hahaha! If we organitze very well the zone thats not bad but my intuition (I respect other ones) is that the traffic will mostly go only to a one of them and for the other ones can be pretty boring and more if they have been preparating with months earlier. That's why my opinion is that we should make a center without appr only twr's.

Thanks for reading if you did.