bomber wrote:it0uchpods wrote::x![]()
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Thought I could just move on in peace, but I get an email showing me this topic... so now I have to go defend my ass again. Can we just stop with this "lets all harass Josh" attitude please?
If as you say you wanted to move on in peace, then why post critism of the community in at least 3 places ?
And don't blame anyone else other than the person who emailed youit0uchpods wrote:
bomber,
I do not read forum threads unless they concern me, such as help requests for my aircraft or the development threads I've created. It does not interest me whatso ever. So sorry, but I don't see how that is my problem.
You're right. you have no personal resposiblity for the culture of the community..... it's not up to you to set an example but instead for others to do that.it0uchpods wrote:Next, I decided a while go to stop taking sides shortly after the "terraGIT" incident, because I don't really care for arguments. The results of this were astounding -- I was happier -- and had more fun!
If like me you have pages and pages of private mails from Curt, bascially telling you how you're being manipulated by FGMembers, and slagging of Isreal and Jwocky.... what you're actually saying is that you capituated under the pressure.it0uchpods wrote:So no -- I don't associate with anyone since that incident. I just do my development, and enjoy myself. People have different opinions, I've learned that much in life, and it's not worth it to fight them constantly.
So you stand back and watch them bully newbies, keeping quiet so as to enjoy yourself ?it0uchpods wrote:bomber wrote:always feeling that you'd rather not upset Curt, bugman at al.
So no, I don't try to not upset curt and the other guys. I don't try to not upset you. I don't try to not upset anybody, and I don't try to upset anybody. There is no benefit for that! I'm just here to enjoy aviation.
Yeh so was I.... and others. But we also had a concience about how some people were being treated and spoke up against it.... Speaking up against injustice/bullying isn't the same as 'trying not to upset anyone'.... it's about being an active part of the community and not someone who just wants people to aplaud his work.it0uchpods wrote:bomber wrote:So is it through hard work and diligence or by not questioning Thorstens views ?
I guess my 2 years of development work is not hard work at all, huh. Well, if it's that easy, you should be able to easily make the same thing in 10% of the time, right?![]()
And all those others that put hard work in... the years, far more than you.... yet once they'd spoken out had their enjoyment constantly whitle away.it0uchpods wrote:As I said before, I don't question Thorsten's views because I don't take read it! As I stated, I only read what I am interested to read.
Further, while I do appreciate Thorsten's comment, if he had said he hated my work and my project -- that is his opinion, I don't really care! I know there are people who like my work, and those who don't. That is their choice, and I am just doing it to enjoy myself, and for the people who enjoy my work.
The difference between us is that I haven't left in a huff blaming the community for not liking me... and that if Thorsten was to attack another persons work you'd just keep you head down, just so long as it's not you being critisised.it0uchpods wrote:I have only tried to contribute positive to the FlightGear project, and you have done nothing but criticize me. (and if you think I will stick up for you after that, you are joking yourself)
What ! when ! .... you lieing git, I've never critized you whilst you were a member of the FG community.... you've left now btw.
and I'll do so now considering your parting cheap shot at a community you admit to making no contribution to effecting it's culture.it0uchpods wrote:I don't want to involve myself in all the drama, and I noticed that they will just keep fighting, maybe forever. So I just ignore it and try to do what I love, but after being hostilely treated by several different people, many times, I have decided I don't want to be a part of the forum community anymore.
Lastly, what you and others (such as Catalanoic) fail to understand is: The people who have been kind and respectful to me I have only the most gratitude and respect for, but it only takes one person with malicious intent to destroy the kind intent of others.
And what you fail to understand is that with your sit back and ignore everything that's happening to other people as long as it's not me attitude.... you just give these people permission to go after the next person.
We'll never agree on this because you're still a child, without any understanding that it's the strongs or those with a meritous position in a communities resposnisbilty to look after the weak, and build towards a healthy vibrant community.....
I posted time and time again within the flight modeling forum of FG, encourageing debate and interest in flight modeling.... and time and time again those that don't do flight models waded in with their opinions and disrupted conversations that were both interesting and informative.... not once did anyone say "Hold on Thorsten (and others) STFU you don't do flight modeling so have a little respect for those that do and feck off back to the weather forum and explain to people again why clouds spin"
And it's because you and others fail to support other members of the community whilst they're getting a kicking that I have little respect or inclination to feel protective of you now some nasty baddy waddy man has said some nasty wasty wordies to you.
Simon