Opinions are dangerous....

[KL-666]

The great magician has turned Thorsten into a Troll. let's hope he gets better

Kind regards, Vincent

[bomber]

I some how don't think that was his target.

[KL-666]

Hello D-ECHO,

Just a side step first, i just realize that your name is in shouting letters

I react to your "smart" questions on the other forum. The behaviour on that other forum is appalling. Not only to me, but also to Bomber, many people who afterwards chose to go to fgmembers, and many people who were new and just departed into the blue just because of this behaviour. But i shall only speak for myself.

The pattern is always the same. They have a bulldog up front who mows down every idea that grows above the lawn. Mind you, an idea is nothing until it has grown into a thorough plan. So it is insane to want to eradicate an idea. There is insanity number 1.

If anyone opposes the insanity of eradicating an idea, then the leader throws in his weight and calls the one legitimately asking questions a troll. Insanity number 2.

Finally the "moderators" come in to eradicate the one questioning the eradication of mere ideas. Insanity number 3.

I have never met such a bunch of self indulgent madmen in my life. Do you expect anyone to get a meaningful working relation with them?

Kind regards, Vincent

[bomber]

Yes D-ECHO is rather obvious..... too easy.

"If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, "

A man that supposedly champions gliders yet has given no feedback on the new updated ask 13. ...... even to say the obvious gaff.

"If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;"

Simon.

[KL-666]

And D-ECHO, i forgot to tell you about the vassals jumping in. Wlbragg is doing it at this very moment. Now the Great Leader can lean back, and leave it until his "moderators" jump in. See, if the Great Leader thinks something + someone else, then it must be true. Not!

I wish you great happiness in your belief.

Kind regards, Vincent

[KL-666]

There you have it, D-ECHO. You passed the ball several times to Thorsten, and now he "scores" this.

I however was not under the impression you'd ever produce anything

https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31352&sid=d1c6f3df92f3973436e6aa3e5cd28ac6&start=45#p302548

If you were a man, you would now equally persistent call on Thorsten to provide evidence that Bomber never produces anything.

In the rest of the post, and in the next one to It0uchpods, Thorsten presents himself as the saint who saves people a lot of time by warning them once and early. After that people should decide for themselves if they want to continue their project.

I think it's fair to let people know where their idea stands in the overall FG roadmap early on. With that knowledge, they can still decide to pursue it (or not).

This is a blatant lie, because he does not warn just once. He goes on and on about it, until everybody is sick of talking about their project with such a pest in their thread. Or worse, he manages to get the thread closed or deleted by his behaviour.

If you are such a hero defending justice, you should call Thorsten on this lie, and demand evidence that he always warns just once.

Kind regards, Vincent

[IAHM-COL]

Bomber, or you show what you've produced or Thorsten will not sign you on the payroll!

[D-ECHO]

Bomber said something, a pure phrase thrown into the room without even explaining what he means, so you may understand I'm not interested in this anymore, but I won't jump in like a troll demanding

PROOF!PROOF!PROOF!PROOF!

from bomber, it's okay then, a bit disappointing but well, so I won't complain about Thorsten's opinion which seems much more understandable to me.
I don't see any reason demanding proof from him and as I'm not demanding anything from b as well after noticing he won't present anything I guess that's what you call even.
B
[REVIEW] I had a look at the sentence you quoted and as far as I understand it he had not the impression Bomber would produce anything explaining his statement, which I also don't have and as it seems at the moment that's right. It does not seem like Thorsten wants to express (here) that Bomber never produces anything. I guess that's a typical case for a phrase being taken out of the context.

If you are such a hero defending justice

I'm not and I don't even want to be a hero of any kind, my only interest in this case is to make myself a (justifieable, if this word exists) opinion.

Just a side step first, i just realize that your name is in shouting letters

Oh, well, actually it's like this because that's the official format, shouting letters would be CAPS LOCK USED IN NORMAL SENTENCES!!!!

[KL-666]

[REVIEW] I had a look at the sentence you quoted and as far as I understand it he had not the impression Bomber would produce anything explaining his statement, which I also don't have and as it seems at the moment that's right. It does not seem like Thorsten wants to express (here) that Bomber never produces anything. I guess that's a typical case for a phrase being taken out of the context.

Learn reading D-ECHO. Thorsten uses the notion of Bomber never producing anything again in his final statement to accuse him of trolling. There is really something very wrong with how you like to twist things to the advantage of Thorsten.

Kind regards, Vincent

[bomber]

You didn't ask me to explain you asked for proof.... and not just once.

It's as if you expect me to have documented evidence 'on hamd' of other people's attitudes towards the FG community...

And if I produced it, it'd not be conclusive, or for that matter taken with anything but a pinch of salt.

Go find out for yourself, it's the only real way.... and if you're not interested in doing so, that's ok, it's no skin off my nose.