
You cannot swing the sword of truth in a crowd without someone getting hurt.
I still don't know what you are talking about.LesterBoffo wrote:MIG29pilot wrote:Lester what on Earth do you mean by a belief system? One believes, or one doesn't.
How very binary of you. There could possibly be a third way? Agnostic's have long countered binary thinking that you have to either believe or not.
I used to, now I'm not so certain, in fact pretty doubtful about a universe that has a 'maker' or purpose for the chosen 'crown of creation' seeing how the 'crown' seems to think his activities and interrelations don't have equals representative in other faiths or non-faiths, and these people can be treated as less than human.
MIG29pilot wrote:I still don't know what you are talking about.LesterBoffo wrote:MIG29pilot wrote:Lester what on Earth do you mean by a belief system? One believes, or one doesn't.
How very binary of you. There could possibly be a third way? Agnostic's have long countered binary thinking that you have to either believe or not.I used to, now I'm not so certain, in fact pretty doubtful about a universe that has a 'maker' or purpose for the chosen 'crown of creation' seeing how the 'crown' seems to think his activities and interrelations don't have equals representative in other faiths or non-faiths, and these people can be treated as less than human.
1.)Please use correct grammar. It helps a lot.
2.) If I get you correctly, I still don't know what you are referring to. Examples?
MIG29pilot wrote:;)
You cannot swing the sword of truth in a crowd without someone getting hurt.
MIG29pilot wrote:I still don't know what you are talking about.LesterBoffo wrote:MIG29pilot wrote:Lester what on Earth do you mean by a belief system? One believes, or one doesn't.
How very binary of you. There could possibly be a third way? Agnostic's have long countered binary thinking that you have to either believe or not.I used to, now I'm not so certain, in fact pretty doubtful about a universe that has a 'maker' or purpose for the chosen 'crown of creation' seeing how the 'crown' seems to think his activities and interrelations don't have equals representative in other faiths or non-faiths, and these people can be treated as less than human.
1.)Please use correct grammar. It helps a lot.
2.) If I get you correctly, I still don't know what you are referring to. Examples?
LesterBoffo wrote:MIG29pilot wrote:Lester what on Earth do you mean by a belief system? One believes, or one doesn't.
How very binary of you. There could possibly be a third way? Agnostic's have long countered binary thinking that you have to either believe or not.
LesterBoffo wrote:MIG29pilot wrote:;)
You cannot swing the sword of truth in a crowd without someone getting hurt.
Yeah and flinging poo at a wall makes the wall messy and stink. So?
Lydiot wrote:LesterBoffo wrote:MIG29pilot wrote:Lester what on Earth do you mean by a belief system? One believes, or one doesn't.
How very binary of you. There could possibly be a third way? Agnostic's have long countered binary thinking that you have to either believe or not.
I disagree. As far as I know "gnosis" refers to knowledge whereas the "belief" referred to is no doubt "theism" (right?). So in one sense I think MIG is right; you either subscribe to the proposition that god exists (theism) or you do not (Atheism).
However, regardless of what your belief is about it your knowledge is a different matter. So being an atheist doesn't mean one isn't also an agnostic. Likewise one could be an agnostic theist. In my opinion the only unreasonable position is that of saying one knows, for a fact, unequivocally, that god exists, seeing that the hypothesis is fundamentally unfalsifiable.
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