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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby SHM » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:17 am

Learn from your failures :lol:
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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby SHM » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:36 am

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Both flight crew reported having 24 hours rest at a hotel in Sydney prior to the occurrence flight, and having received adequate rest and sustenance. Both reported being in good health with no external stresses or distractions.

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The captain held an Air Transport Pilot (Aeroplane) Licence with an Airbus A330 command endorsement. He held a current Class 1 medical with a requirement to wear vision correction. The captain had a total of 22,580 hours flying experience, mostly on Boeing‑type aircraft flying for other operators. He had converted to the A330 as a captain approximately 18 months prior to the occurrence, when commencing employment with Air Asia X.
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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby Octal450 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:07 pm

Same happens with the IRU switchs in Boeings. In Airbus, just like boeing, you push the INITIALIZE IRS button in the FMS, which does the same as putting the coords from teh GPS into teh FMS in teh Boeings.

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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby jwocky » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:19 pm

I mean, okay, system design and everything ... but then, a cockpit crew entering a place 11,000km from where they are, that is also a thing worth to think about. I mean, it was not in the air, it was on the ground. Looking out of the cockpit window, they could probably see big signs like "Welcome to Sydney".
So, Airbus is one thing, but Air Asiana is also a dubious thing, I guess.
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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby SHM » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:13 am

The easiest way to crosscheck would be to make sure the aircraft symbol on the ND matches with the F-Plan you entered.
That is one of the items in the checklist.

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If it was 11000km away it wouldnt have been even close to the F-Path. :(
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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby KL-666 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:58 pm

Hi SHM,

This aircraft symbol story shifts a large part of the responsibility to the pilots. They could have quite easily found out something was wrong. It is their job after all to check such things.

Never realized the symbol myself, because i use the ND only as a compass myself.

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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby SHM » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:11 pm

KL-666 wrote:Never realized the symbol myself, because i use the ND only as a compass myself.

Haha.
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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby IAHM-COL » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:14 pm

@Vincent

your old good magnetic friend is reliable as compass. This ND... I wont trust it for that matter.
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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby SHM » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:18 pm

Maybe its the age, we youngsters love our glass cockpit :D
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Re: A jolly day at the office

Postby KL-666 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:29 pm

It is not that i hate glass. In fact i think the layout of the PFD is very smartly done. Everything you need on one horizontal line. Instrument scan is probably faster than on steam gauges.

But what i hate is following magenta lines. It beats every self initiative out of a man. Myself i navigate on VOR/NDB.

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