World's Challenging Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

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Re: World's hardest Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

Postby jwocky » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:46 pm

I tried both yesterday manually with the An-124. Funny thing, it is actually easier if I am a bit heavier. Well, not me, the plane of course. However, if the old Ukrainian can do it, there should be no problem with that very modern and authentic Boeing 777. Just make sure, your AP is not on at the turn or it may switches your engines off ...

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Re: World's hardest Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

Postby KL-666 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:15 pm

themadgreek wrote:Well unfortunately your math is flawed. The radius is 0.9nm, the diameter is 1.8nm.


You are right, i mixed up radius and diameter. A radius of 0.9nm can be flown max 170 kts. So a 737 could barely make it. No ATC in his sane mind is going to make a plane do unnecessary stunts it can barely manage. Just now i had the chance of capturing a 737 coming from the west. It did not take LOC/DME west, but simply descended through the west valley straight in. Since you are so fond of video's, find the first video with a 737 doing LOC/DME west. You won't find it.

Another thing is that a descending plane makes a narrower turn for the same bank. So the final turn for rw 8 should be easier achievable than the level LOC/DME turn. Also this turn is not an unnecessary stunt.

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Re: World's hardest Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

Postby J Maverick 16 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:19 pm

Guys I don't think it's so difficult to land a plane on a runway in a valley, there are more difficult things c'mon.

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Re: World's hardest Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

Postby jwocky » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:37 pm

Guys I don't think it's so difficult to land a plane on a runway in a valley, there are more difficult things c'mon.


Yeah, finding a good parking spot for example
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Re: World's hardest Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

Postby KL-666 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:11 pm

The point here is that Themadgreek suggests that LOC/DME west is in use for jetliners. This is incorrect. Even though the documentation we can lay our hands on is not completely clear about it, every evidence points towards that LOC/DME west is not considered suitable for jetliners.

It is important that this is well known within the fg community, because i do not want to be put on an illegal approach by a rookie ATC. Specifically not between those mountains.

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Postby IAHM-COL » Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:59 am

IH-COL ready for tomorrow's Flight

The A319 is already parked in the Gate D21 at Wien's LOWW

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SCENERY

For those willing, you can use terraGIT. It now contains preinstalled custom scenery for LOWW (D-LASER's OSM2City) and LOWI (ot666 more complete Object set and EDNY objects)

If you already cloned terraGIT you can use the HARD.Tour1 install script as follows

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cd terraGIT
git pull
install/HARD.Tour1


Alternatively:


Flight Plan ammendment

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I am planning to arrive via Salzburg 3A as charted

Salzburg3A LOWI STAR

For that reason, I am requesting ammendment to the Flight Plan posted, as follows

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IH-COL| A319 |  STEI1A SITNI  SBG  SBG3A RTT    |  ETD: 12/24/2016:1905Z | ETA: 12/24/2016:1800Z


For this FlightPlan I had prepared navigation aids



See you guys soon,
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Re: World's hardest Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

Postby Octal450 » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:33 am

@Israel
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There'll be some nice updates when I'm back :D

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Re: World's hardest Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

Postby IAHM-COL » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:39 am

its quite a beautiful job indeed. It will be my trusted bird tomorrow to get in the Alps' valleys

Needs a heck more liveries thou!!
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Re: World's hardest Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

Postby IAHM-COL » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:41 am

getting myself in Austrian Mood ... with the Lovely Schubert's "Die Forelle"

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Re: World's hardest Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

Postby Octal450 » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:42 am

Yup


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