When 'psycho' automation left this pilot powerless

[123apple]

It is not illegal to pull circuit breakers under any circumstances. But you don't do it unless you are required to for obvious reasons.

However, there are easier ways: eg use the pushbutton to shut off all three SEC computers leaving you with no backup or spoilers but with full ailerons and pitch control (ALT (REDUCED PROT) PITCH, DIRECT ROLL CONTROL, DIRECT YAW CONTROL) or switch off all ELAC computers leaving you in the backup mode, no ailerons, spoiler control the roll, and you have full stabalizer control. You can then turn the pushbuttons back on leaving you with full control, but the degraded flight control law remains active.

Also, KL-666 you may like to practice those failures in the IDG-A320X, which now has a very nice direct / alternate law simulation... it flies like a "real airplane without the christmas tree"!

[Wecsje]

There is also a reason why there is no degrade button in the airbus. And, the boeing 777 and 787 doesn't have one either.

O, and there was even a mandatory replacement of pitot tubes in effect back then, and this plane didn't have the newer ones. The old ones were to be faulty sometimes, and even freeze in flight. This was however quickly fixed, and most smart airlines made the changes right away.

C.

[KL-666]

See, there is the problem with you fanboys (apple and wecsje). You are already brainwashed by airbus. Even blindly repeating the lies about Boeing, that they would have FBW as idiotic as Airbus. They do not. Boeings have virtually no FBW, so there is, never was and never will be a problem with it. Opposite to Airbus, where most (serious) crashes are related to FBW.

I do not want either of you in my cockpit. But that is no problem, because i decided long ago not to set a foot on a deathtrap called Airbus.

Kind regards, Vincent

[Wecsje]

Well, you better do some research on the 777 and 787 .

And I love the airbus, doesn't mean I'm a fanboy tho.

Now of course the big question, if the world was to end, and the only way you could save yourself was by stepping in an airbus, would you do it?

C.

[IAHM-COL]

If the world is to end. What purpose is to board an Airbus?

Me confused

[HJ1an]

Well, you better do some research on the 777 and 787 .

And I love the airbus, doesn't mean I'm a fanboy tho.

Now of course the big question, if the world was to end, and the only way you could save yourself was by stepping in an airbus, would you do it?

C.

I know you meant this for KL-666 but I couldn't resist. That would depend on how the world is going to end. If it involves electro-magnetic pulses, then I would gladly just wait for my time to end. And even if it isn't EMPs, and the world ends while you're on an airbus, and you're still flying, how are you going to land without a runway?

[HJ1an]

If the store world is to end. What purpose is to board an Airbus?

Simulating confined spaces of a live burial a.k.a coffin (?) not my cup of tea.

[IAHM-COL]

Pilots used to say

In relation to flying, everything is dispensable. Except landing.

[Wecsje]

...........

Right, forget the end of the world qestion...


(Or just think of it like this: the world will implode tomorrow, and the only way to survive, and thus live a happy life after that is to step aboard an airbus, and fly with it).

[Octal450]

Hi Vincent
Sorry, but you are incorrect. The 777's FlyByWire works exactly the same.

So let me explain what FlyByWire actually means:
Control inputs go to computers, which go to the hydraulic actuators on the flight surfaces.

The Airbus' Flight Control Laws, however, are different from Boeing.

I've already explained the Airbus system to you in another thread, I suggest you to watch this video to learn more about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9FSC0r2hi4

The only difference here is the Boeing Computers will not prevent the pilot, but they will strongly resist the pilot not too. Just as in the Airbus, switches on the overhead panel can turn off the PFCs.

Hi everyone
DO NOT START WITH THIS AIRBUS VS BOEING BULLSHIT. Each has it's own system, and the Airbus system works just as well as the Boeing. They both have their positives and negatives. Poor maintenance is the cause of the stuck.

But, no-one will listen to me anyways, even since I am no fanboy, and have done research extensively on both systems.

But carry on with your ridiculous arguments.

Kind Regards,
Josh