https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic. ... &start=300
And this is where the 'plane is a whole' thinking fails.
helijah because he created the simple 3d exterior and had it put in FGAddon thinks he owns the whole plane in Flightgear. He's the owner and maintainer in his eyes and when people want to do work on it they must first contact him and when finished he'll be the judge if it get included.
Flightgears attitude towards content creation and ownership has been wrong since day one.... The Chinese have saying "you only need to be one degree out at the start of a journey to be miles out at the end". Flightgears intransigence to adjust along the last 20years is why it's in this position.
Simon.
GPL, does it work for you.
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
"If anyone ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me - it's all balls" - R J Mitchell
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en ... reterIsGPL
https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic. ... &start=165
"Looks like the NVIS data is available here... Is this compatible with the GPL license? https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/au/deed.en"
Explain ?
https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic. ... &start=165
"Looks like the NVIS data is available here... Is this compatible with the GPL license? https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/au/deed.en"
Explain ?
"If anyone ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me - it's all balls" - R J Mitchell
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
bomber wrote:https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2970&start=300
And this is where the 'plane is a whole' thinking fails.
A plane as a whole vs every file its own license. Quite a sensitive topic.
In general, license mixtures distributed in a single package seems like a muddy scenery, to me. Addons or patches covered under a single license (not a per file situation) seems an aggreable middle point. I wouldn't be able to distinguish, otherwise, how the license was respected in the sense of not being replaced as the content is modified.
IH-COL
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/IAHM-COL/gpg-pubkey/master/pubkey.asc
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
File by File License - I think its a good thing. Had someone had told me this was possible, I would have done it since the start.
But - I was told GPL was the saving grace... LOL!
Kind Regards,
Josh
But - I was told GPL was the saving grace... LOL!
Kind Regards,
Josh
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
File by file licence is a requirement of GPL, if you've never done it then you're not doing it right.
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en ... SourceFile
Or put it another way..... You never actually licenced your files GPL.
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en ... SourceFile
Or put it another way..... You never actually licenced your files GPL.
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"If anyone ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me - it's all balls" - R J Mitchell
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
File by file license makes no sense in the context of copyleft clauses. Only a lawyer with expertise in copyright and FOSS software can give you true guidance here, I think.
For a non-legal comment of mine: see
https://fosslawyers.org/foss-licenses-w ... l-license/
The central meaning here in the meaning of "whole". A file that operates within a package (say an aircraft) can't be considered the whole, and thus a non GPL licensing of a number (N) of files on a GPL aircraft not carrying GPL license seem to be in direct contradiction to the copyleft provisions.
I had this conversation with Bomber ad nauseam, we agree in that an addon can be licensed anyway one want, but shouldn't be bundled with GPL software for redistribution. I had not been able to engineer a good solution for both camps here.
For a non-legal comment of mine: see
https://fosslawyers.org/foss-licenses-w ... l-license/
The Copyleft has a considerable impact in terms of derivative works(For basic permissions check Section 2 of the GPL v3 license). In theory, this works in the following way: (1) When you create derivative works of a GPL’ed licensed program, they will also have to be licensed under the GPL license terms. (2) If you create an original program, all components that form a “whole” with your program will have to be licensed under the GPL license, or a compatible license(even shared libraries in most cases).
The central meaning here in the meaning of "whole". A file that operates within a package (say an aircraft) can't be considered the whole, and thus a non GPL licensing of a number (N) of files on a GPL aircraft not carrying GPL license seem to be in direct contradiction to the copyleft provisions.
I had this conversation with Bomber ad nauseam, we agree in that an addon can be licensed anyway one want, but shouldn't be bundled with GPL software for redistribution. I had not been able to engineer a good solution for both camps here.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/IAHM-COL/gpg-pubkey/master/pubkey.asc
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
No we not agree..... You have your opinion I have mine....
I simply agreed to go the non bundled route as a means of easily getting my fdm 'out there'..... Just a means to an end, you get no where swimming up stream.
I simply agreed to go the non bundled route as a means of easily getting my fdm 'out there'..... Just a means to an end, you get no where swimming up stream.
"If anyone ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me - it's all balls" - R J Mitchell
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
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As he said.
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As he said.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/IAHM-COL/gpg-pubkey/master/pubkey.asc
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
IAHM-COL wrote:I had this conversation with Bomber ad nauseam, we agree in that an addon can be licensed anyway one want, but shouldn't be bundled with GPL software for redistribution. I had not been able to engineer a good solution for both camps here.
so far, we agreed to disagree.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/IAHM-COL/gpg-pubkey/master/pubkey.asc
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
Re: GPL, does it work for you.
Exactly..... But it doesn't mean we can't work together or that a user can't have a whole plane on his hard drive made up of GPL, CC and propriety code.
Here's something to think about.... If you download a whole plane, and think of it as a whole. If you then download an fdm or a texture to go with it, is the plane now more than a whole ? Or maybe it wasn't a whole in the first place.
Here's something to think about.... If you download a whole plane, and think of it as a whole. If you then download an fdm or a texture to go with it, is the plane now more than a whole ? Or maybe it wasn't a whole in the first place.
"If anyone ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me - it's all balls" - R J Mitchell
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