do we really have to put up with the load this that and other.....every time ?
Do they understand how many times as a developer I restart FG...every night !
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"If anyone ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me - it's all balls" - R J Mitchell
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bomber wrote:ok now we're getting somewhere.... it don't work in 3.5
Core clowns
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If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
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If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
Re: Avatar Scorpion
Ok I'll work on getting it 3.5 capable tomorrow... looks like there's something now needed in the weights and ballance file, so just a case of starting from the top and working logically to find what it needs...
Simon
Simon
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Hi @bomber
With these changes the Scorpio still gives me a segfault, but now it does so without many of the errors that were listed before
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS-NONGPL/AH- ... 1e97e32c72
currently this is the StdOut/StdErr
This one
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS-NONGPL/AH- ... 2272627835
Shut off the asinine [ALERT] 0.10
With these changes the Scorpio still gives me a segfault, but now it does so without many of the errors that were listed before
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS-NONGPL/AH- ... 1e97e32c72
currently this is the StdOut/StdErr
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0.09 [INFO]:gui UI languages: ("en-US")
0.09 [INFO]:gui Loaded translations for locale "en_US"
0.09 [INFO]:general FlightGear: Version 2020.2.0
0.09 [INFO]:general FlightGear: Build Type Dev
0.09 [INFO]:general Built with GNU C++ version 7.5
0.09 [INFO]:general Jenkins number/ID 0:none
0.10 [ALRT]:aircraft Aircraft does not specify a minimum FG version: please add one at /sim/minimum-fg-version
0.40 [ALRT]:general Setting heading preset to : 152.48
Now checking for plug-in osgPlugins-3.6.5/osgdb_nvtt.so
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
The aerodynamic axis system has been set by default to the Lift/Side/Drag system.
The aerodynamic moment axis system has been set by default to the bodyXYZ system.
1.29 [ALRT]:network Multiplayer mode active!
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
2.38 [ALRT]:nasal Volcanic activity off.
2.53 [ALRT]:ai Submodels: Unable to read AI submodels file: Path ""
Error: caught signal 11:
/lib64/libc.so.6 : ()+0x395a0
fgfs : JSBSim::FGTrim::trimOnGround()+0x973
fgfs : JSBSim::FGTrim::DoTrim()+0x17ac
fgfs : FGJSBsim::do_trim()+0x4b
fgfs : FGJSBsim::init()+0x4b4
fgfs : FDMShell::update(double)+0x3e8
fgfs : SGSubsystemGroup::Member::update(double)+0x7a
fgfs : SGSubsystemGroup::update(double)+0x391
fgfs : SGSubsystemMgr::update(double)+0x33
fgfs() [0x10cc9db]
fgfs : fgOSMainLoop()+0x79
fgfs : fgMainInit(int, char**)+0x1c57
fgfs : main()+0x11b
/lib64/libc.so.6 : __libc_start_main()+0xea
fgfs : _start()+0x2a
This one
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS-NONGPL/AH- ... 2272627835
Shut off the asinine [ALERT] 0.10
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/IAHM-COL/gpg-pubkey/master/pubkey.asc
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
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Hi @bomber
I really tried moving around your files in order to get them to launch, unsuccessfully.
As shown above, I did lots of chages that corrected the verbose problems. However, the final error is a cryptic segmentation fault in JSBsim. It argues about the trim, so I presume that either the CoG, or some of the related axis are creating a problem.
(I even tried disabling the System files, but that gave me no change in the segfault)
At this point I am at a lost of how to change this FDM to get it to launch. So I 'll be patient and wait for the best moment to test this fictional helicopter.
IH
I really tried moving around your files in order to get them to launch, unsuccessfully.
As shown above, I did lots of chages that corrected the verbose problems. However, the final error is a cryptic segmentation fault in JSBsim. It argues about the trim, so I presume that either the CoG, or some of the related axis are creating a problem.
(I even tried disabling the System files, but that gave me no change in the segfault)
At this point I am at a lost of how to change this FDM to get it to launch. So I 'll be patient and wait for the best moment to test this fictional helicopter.
IH
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0.09 [INFO]:gui UI languages: ("en-US")
0.09 [INFO]:gui Loaded translations for locale "en_US"
0.10 [INFO]:general FlightGear: Version 2020.2.0
0.10 [INFO]:general FlightGear: Build Type Dev
0.10 [INFO]:general Built with GNU C++ version 7.5
0.10 [INFO]:general Jenkins number/ID 0:none
0.40 [ALRT]:general Setting heading preset to : 152.48
Now checking for plug-in osgPlugins-3.6.5/osgdb_nvtt.so
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
Failed to tie property fcs//initial-integrator-value to object methods
The aerodynamic axis system has been set by default to the Lift/Side/Drag system.
The aerodynamic moment axis system has been set by default to the bodyXYZ system.
1.24 [ALRT]:network Multiplayer mode active!
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
2.33 [ALRT]:nasal Volcanic activity off.
Error: caught signal 11:
/lib64/libc.so.6 : ()+0x395a0
fgfs : JSBSim::FGTrim::trimOnGround()+0x973
fgfs : JSBSim::FGTrim::DoTrim()+0x17ac
fgfs : FGJSBsim::do_trim()+0x4b
fgfs : FGJSBsim::init()+0x4b4
fgfs : FDMShell::update(double)+0x3e8
fgfs : SGSubsystemGroup::Member::update(double)+0x7a
fgfs : SGSubsystemGroup::update(double)+0x391
fgfs : SGSubsystemMgr::update(double)+0x33
fgfs() [0x10cc9db]
fgfs : fgOSMainLoop()+0x79
fgfs : fgMainInit(int, char**)+0x1c57
fgfs : main()+0x11b
/lib64/libc.so.6 : __libc_start_main()+0xea
fgfs : _start()+0x2a
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If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
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ok I see what they've done, they've removed the ability to have negative numbers in a prop power table... wrong.
Without negative numbers the prop wont't free spin, normally that aint going to be a problem on fixed wing planes, if the engine fails the prop will simply fail to spin... still not a good idea as a spinning prop taking force from the wind is actually an increased drag on the plane. So the flight model is now incorrect for non feathering props... because feathering the prop set the blade angle to a position that prevents spinning and reduces drag.
For a helicopter it's a lot worse, because there might come a time when you need to autorotation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation
From 2018-3.5 onwards you're not going to be able to do that using a JSBsim flight model, but helicopters are YAsim, so who cares ?
Simon
Without negative numbers the prop wont't free spin, normally that aint going to be a problem on fixed wing planes, if the engine fails the prop will simply fail to spin... still not a good idea as a spinning prop taking force from the wind is actually an increased drag on the plane. So the flight model is now incorrect for non feathering props... because feathering the prop set the blade angle to a position that prevents spinning and reduces drag.
For a helicopter it's a lot worse, because there might come a time when you need to autorotation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation
From 2018-3.5 onwards you're not going to be able to do that using a JSBsim flight model, but helicopters are YAsim, so who cares ?
Simon
"If anyone ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me - it's all balls" - R J Mitchell
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IAHM-COL,
you need to replace the rotor fan in your engine folder with this 3.5 version...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1miCYl ... jQKtOPGmSV
regards
Simon
you need to replace the rotor fan in your engine folder with this 3.5 version...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1miCYl ... jQKtOPGmSV
regards
Simon
"If anyone ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me - it's all balls" - R J Mitchell
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Wilco
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R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
Re: Avatar Scorpion
@Bomber
you've got it. It launched.
Thanks for troubleshooting
Time 2 fly!
you've got it. It launched.
Thanks for troubleshooting
Time 2 fly!
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/IAHM-COL/gpg-pubkey/master/pubkey.asc
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
Re: Avatar Scorpion
Hi @bomber
I pushed your fixed rotor in 2 steps:
The Scorpio on FGMEMBERS launches now on FG2020.2
I'll let you know my air experience once I figure why I can start engines (rotors OK)
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS-NONGPL/AH- ... a88e765139
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS-NONGPL/AH- ... 02d6da6610
I pushed your fixed rotor in 2 steps:
The Scorpio on FGMEMBERS launches now on FG2020.2
I'll let you know my air experience once I figure why I can start engines (rotors OK)
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS-NONGPL/AH- ... a88e765139
https://github.com/FGMEMBERS-NONGPL/AH- ... 02d6da6610
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/IAHM-COL/gpg-pubkey/master/pubkey.asc
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
R.M.S.
If we gave everybody in the World free software today, but we failed to teach them about the four freedoms, five years from now, would they still have it?
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