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Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 1:14 am
by IAHM-COL
true true. The NOTAM is for us. Not for FGUK thou. As in we not sending pilots on their area.

Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:12 am
by IM-RAN
What! Is the festival also divided into two. :(

Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:54 am
by IAHM-COL
It's divided in (4)

* The ATCs
* The controlled pilots (controlled by the ATCs)
* The minigames (uncotrolled pilots organizing 1-2 hr group flights usually VFR around the zone of the festival)
* The Military units (Operation Red Flag / and/or / FGUK)

Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 4:11 am
by IM-RAN
Oh OK Great. I thought blah, just never mind :mrgreen:
OK what can I be help of inthis festival. Other than controlling.

Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:34 am
by oscar6662
If you like flying airliners from airport to airport in the event I know it can be super nice because of the coverages of ATC's.

Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:52 am
by IM-RAN
Nah, I want to help you guys. Be a part of organizing the festival.
By the way will the flight plans of ATC's and Pilots be uploaded in flightgear-atc.alwaysdata.net

If you are willing I can do some scenery work or an inaugration of some sort. Some thing that would not take me much time of that day.

Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 1:24 pm
by J Maverick 16
About NOTAMs and Military activities, IRL almost all the territory of Wales is used for military exercises, low-level training, fire-range (between Wales and Ireland), etc. FGUK will just fly as it always does, without rules (mind, this doesn't mean that we'll mess up with ATCs or shoot at airliners), simply we'll ignore (most of us) ATC and keep flying on our way, respecting the others and pretending they respect our willing to fly without guidance by other people.
So what has to be done here is: first of all defining all the ATC positions in order to know which areas will be under control, and which not, so that we all know in advance where we can fly without disturb and/or being disturbed.
Define a route which doesn't pass over the EGOD/EGOV area and at least 18,000ft above these bases and tell pilots inbound for that place to expect military presence which will not interfere with their flight, as long as the airline pilot respect this.
And then, avoid to send messages like "Welcome to ICAO area - please advice ATC of your intentions via MPChat or whatever" to every aircraft that simply pops in the 100NM area if it is clearly a military fighter, tanker, heli, etc.

About OPRF, we are going to operate at: EGUN/EGUL (North-east of Cambridge area) and maybe also EGVA (close to Swindon, north) and EGOD. I think that there will be some missions going on so these bases will be used as location to fly at the country we will stay in during the Festival. Probably we will follow ATC instructions and advert them in time if we have to cross their airspace (mainly via Mumble) but don't expect that we'll land in the manned airports (unless someone of the Crew want to do some regional flights around UK among the ops). I'd say that a NOTAM also to the EGUL/EGUN area is set in order to avoid problems during the Festival.
Regards, Mav

Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:34 pm
by PilotDjim
YOU ARE NOT HAVING LONDON CENTER SOUTH. I ALREADY HAVE THAT.!!!

Djim/KOL

Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:40 pm
by T-URBO
London south centre has already been assigned including a back-up when he is not available. There are many other positions open.

London City

Luton

London Southend

and many more.

Re: United Kingdom + Ireland: Fall 2016 [November 5th and 6th]

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:52 pm
by oscar6662
UPDATE!!! I am now London CTRs (EGTT)!


Hmm...(first come first serve?). I think we should discuss this.