Free Flight, Free Speech

அல்லது இதை விரும்புகிறீர்களா? நான் இருவருடனும் நன்றாக இருக்கிறேன்

PavlinS wrote:IAHM- COL I hoped you were on my side on this. SHM was trying to take over this topic, not to make a friendly suggestion.

@Pavlin

I am on your side and not on your side here, simultaneously, depending on what facet of the problem we talk about


1. I fully agree with you, that Multiplayer Events in FGMP servers are scarce these days, and it will be nice to have more
2. I fully agree with you that FGMP events that I'll be happy and looking forward to join will be host in FGMP servers. Not on VATSIM

but,

3. I do not agree (also fully-not) that SM was trying to take over the topic. In fact there is no "topic ownership" on this forum.
A topic is a conversation, and it will drift towards where people involved decide to let it go. Telling you to host a VATSIM event, or to move a FGMP server event to VATSIM is not a take over. In fact, he can only suggest this to you, but he won't be able to force you to do so. So ultimately it has always been your choice.

4. Making this thread a flame-fest has been something that you guys had chosen yourselves, including you, @Pavlin. So, I do not agree (also fully-not) that you are sole victim here.

So, ultimately and more importantly,

if you wish to host not-VATSIM events we will all be ok with that too. May SM want you to host them on VATSIM? Maybe. Yes, if he plans to attend. Irrelevant for him if he does not plan to attend. May IH-COL want you to host them on VATSIM? Certainly not. If you do host them on VATSIM, IH-COL will not be willing and/or able to attend.

So that's that.

Your choice. If you are making events, you get to choose where they'll be played. Getting emotional and/or aggresive, or reactionary about this will not help your event, because possible event attendees may loose interest of sharing your company.

That's how I see it.

5. About language? In this forum use of any language is acceptable. Keep in mind we are not getting your message. But I'm sure you know that.

Me parece que de alguna manera la ruptura de comunicacion que resulta de esta torre de Babel beneficia el entendimiento con las personas en este circulo.

IAHM-COL

Your choice. If you are making events, you get to choose where they'll be played. Getting emotional and/or aggresive, or reactionary about this will not help your event, because possible event attendees may loose interest of sharing your company.

That has been the case in discord. Which is why he is now looking for a new place

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If there is anything you want to tell me, it'll have to be in English. I'm not going to bother translating it.

PavlinS. Came in piece.

Should be peace.

Bueno, algien que habla espaňol! Todavia é olvidado la majoria, pero solo tengo que estar por una semana en un país donde hablan español, y you puedo hablar español bien

Maar goed, jullie hebben er wel echt weer een potje van gemaakt, misschien is het een idee om te stoppen?

Ihr wist auch das die ganze FG community hier nicht weiter geholfen wird. Und ich glaube das diese topics das ganze alles noch slechter macht.

This because new people joining will see this, and think, I don't want to be a part of this.

So, maybe stop all this, and actually have a productive discussion, without attacking everyone etc... And to be clear, I think everyone did something wrong here, including myself.

And lets write in English, much easier for everyone BTW don' bother translating my stuff, nothing important anyways.

My two cents, and the reason why I left,

C.

Lets stop arguing -- it's pointless. No-one tried to hijack anything, I just read this again now and it is obvious to me. But VATSIM is a whole different type of flying and I think it should stay in other topics...

Wecsje wrote:Und ich glaube das diese topics das ganze alles noch slechter macht.

+999999

Kind Regards,
Josh

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@everyone

Why do you fly? Who do you do it for? What do you aim to achieve with it?


Think about those three ?, doesnt matter if you use FG or not.

C.