Re: GPL, does it work for you.
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:23 am
Its 1.1525172847 of a plane, obviously.
Kind Regards,
Josh
Kind Regards,
Josh
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Octal450 wrote:hans05 wrote:1) 3D is not that difficult on a basic level. I had NO 3D experience what so ever and still started to work on EC665 (FGUK). I can tell you that blender is VERY time consuming, but I managed to do changes that I wanted. Probably I needed 10 times the time a real 3D person would take, but then I consider this an apprenticeship.
It is for me. I have problems because I am a perfectionist. And when I tried to do the 3D in blender it was too much guesswork (click and drag to what looks good etc.) Annoys me, plus I am very very bored by 3D modelling.
Octal450 wrote:hans05 wrote:2) If you doubt that people will use your license, then maybe your idea of license isn't that great after all. But honestly, if your planes are good enough I would guess that a lot of people do not care about your license and use it.
No, I mean I doubt the 3D guys would allow it that I work with. Users don't really care that much.
Octal450 wrote:hans05 wrote:And why you would not name people who are pissing you off in FG forum? I might even indeed tell them if I knew the names
Because they are "coo-coos"- and who knows what they will do.
Octal450 wrote:hans05 wrote:I understand that you have no interest in their planes. But, as you stated above, the interesting part is how they manage their planes. But I noticed that there is a big difference between you and them. They seem to not care if somebody steals code. In the opposite, they are happy if others would be using their stuff since well, they take (from others) and they give. That is also my preferred way.
Anyway, I now understand better what you are after. You really mind if people use your code and that said, FGUK is probably not a role model for you.
Well yes but actually no. I don't mind if someone uses my code as long as i am aware of it, and I am the one to give permission. But not free take.
Octal450 wrote:I start to like you more Hans, you actually willing to listen to people who have a differing opinion.
Thorsten Renk wrote:As the copyright holder, you can't conceptually be forced by the license what you decide to release - but if you release the sources, others have to re-distribute them.
Distributing 'all your sources' would certainly be in the spirit of the GPL, but I don't see how you could possibly violate any law if you do not include such things into a release.
hans05 wrote:@IAHM-COL
GPL is based on the copy left idea, but the two are not the same. There are other licenses based on copy left that differ from GPL.
Maybe not important as such, but I think it would be better to discuss a concrete license which in our case would be GPL.
IAHM-COL wrote:https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=36434&sid=df6003a3d6a2d1e570f01576ff1e3b6c#p355232Thorsten Renk wrote:As the copyright holder, you can't conceptually be forced by the license what you decide to release - but if you release the sources, others have to re-distribute them.
Distributing 'all your sources' would certainly be in the spirit of the GPL, but I don't see how you could possibly violate any law if you do not include such things into a release.
That is actually said in a manner that facilitates misunderstanding of the facts; and for anyone that reads the GPLs (v2 or v3), the correct situation is spelled directly.
GPL requires the release of sources, in order to be compliant. One does not need to include the sources in the package (ie a program or a FG Aircraft). One is recommended to offer the sources by some other method, like a link where people can access them. On the absence of this, the sources must be available upon request: not delivering the sources upon request is again, non compiance with GPL.
One thing to keep in mind is that most GPL software is actually offered in source form; and it is expected to be compiled from the source by the final users. Distributions of opensource do sometimes distribute compiled binaries, in order to make it easier to a broader group of people.