World's Challenging Approaches -1 |LOWI|24-12-2016|19:00Z

[SHM]

ah ok. Its corrected

[LesterBoffo]

I might be there with the Embraer Regional Jet 145, depends on time for Christmas Eve meals and such.

[SHM]

ok.

[J Maverick 16]

What about me? I'm coming too!
Regards, Mav

[SHM]

Mav I am really sorry. Just added you.

[D-ECHO]

With a really big MAYBE I will participate, if I come, then in my beloved Bombardier CRJ700

(Source: Bombardier.com)
DOWNLOAD: https://github.com/d-jsb/CRJ700-family

[jwocky]

If D-ECHO is busy with family dinner during the flight, I can maybe take him on the back? What does a CRJ weight?

[Octal450]

No-one gets my username right

[jwocky]

That is because I haven't figured out what the f... are "ouch pods" ...

Sorry, couldn't resist!

[themadgreek]

Well, austro control [1] still publishes the charts for LOC DME WEST [2] so it certainly still exists.

Could be, but it is only usable for slow props. Not even a 737 is allowed to do that approach, because of the narrow turn. The diameter of the turn is 0.9 mi. A 737 is designed for 25 degrees bank with flaps. Making a turn with a diameter of 0.9 mi at 25 degrees bank requires a speed of 120 kts. Unfortunately that is exactly the minimum max-flap (40) speed of the 737. This is not equal to maneuvering speed. Maneuvering speed is minimum flap speed * 1.3. So that should be somewhere around 160 kts. Ergo the turn with a radius of 0.9 mi is impossible for a 737.

A plane on that approach should have a minimum max-flap speed of 90 kts or less. Then they can still go to 120 kts for maneuvering speed. Probably the largest plane for that approach is a dc6.

Kind regards, Vincent

Well unfortunately your math is flawed. The radius is 0.9nm, the diameter is 1.8nm.

Furthermore, the turn for final on runway 08 is the same for both LOC DME EAST AND WEST. This turn also has a radius of < 0.9nm and is regularly flown by 737s and A320s. Here is a video of this turn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKa9ILqgtS4

http://eaip.austrocontrol.at/lo/160721/Charts/LOWI/LO_AD_2_LOWI_24-7-1_en.pdf