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9w 2374

Postby SHM » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:10 pm

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A Jet Airways Boeing 737-800, registration VT-JBG performing flight 9W-2374 from Goa to Mumbai (India) with 154 passengers and 7 crew, backtracked runway 26, lined up runway 26 and was accelerating the engines for takeoff when the aircraft continued to turn right, the crew rejected takeoff, the aircraft went off the right runway edge almost perpendicular, went over soft ground and across a road and came to a stop with the nose gear collapsed and both engines making ground contact. The aircraft was evacuated, 15 occupants received minor injuries.

The airline reported due to a technical glitch the aircraft spun nearly 360 degrees while aligning the runway for takeoff, few passengers received minor injuries during the evacuation.

The airport reported 15 occupants received minor injuries.

India's AAIB have opened an investigation and dispatched 3 investigators on site.

Metars:
VOGO 270100Z 07008KT 4000 BR NSC 21/20 Q1010 BECMG 5000 BR=
VOGO 270000Z 06004KT 3000 BR NSC 21/20 Q1010 TEMPO 2000 BR=
VOGO 262330Z VRB03KT 4000 BR NSC 21/20 Q1010 BECMG 3000 HZ/BR=
VOGO 262300Z VRB02KT 4000 BR NSC 22/21 Q1010 BECMG 3000 HZ/BR=
VOGO 262200Z VRB03KT 4000 BR NSC 23/21 Q1010 BECMG 3000 BR=


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Re: 9w 2374

Postby IAHM-COL » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:41 pm

Oh Wow.
Last minute save!! :O
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Re: 9w 2374

Postby KL-666 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:20 pm

Looks like a highway excursion to me :-) Luckily everyone is alright.

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Re: 9w 2374

Postby SHM » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:55 pm

Pilot of Jet Airways Goa runway crash writes a strong letter

Aviation is a strange profession. I love it to death, but the strange part is that if I meet my end in my line of work, it's most likely that I'll be blamed.
I'll be blamed long before any proof is brought forward. I'll be blamed by the media, by the people. I'll be blamed by the passengers if they survive. In a week the data recorders will be analysed and then maybe they'll find that it's not my fault. That I fought for hope amidst hopelessness till my dying breath.
Sadly that won't make as good a headline as much as "pilot error", or "pilot veers off runway when aligning for takeoff".

In fact, it was nothing to do with aligning that brought this ill-fated crew to a halt just short the peripheral wall at Dabolim yesterday (December 27).
How I wish I could explain concepts of asymmetric thrust to the number of people passing silent judgment and being armchair jurors. How do I tell someone about how much thrust 27,000 odd pounds is? How do I reiterate what a reverser unlock is? How do I tell the person that the same 27,000 pounds is now in an opposite direction?
Most of the crowd probably doesn't even know what a moment arm or a couple is. They dropped physics in 8th grade as it was too complex. That said, they blame the human machine who earns his bread and butter, putting into practice what they felt was too complicated.

To be honest it's disgusting - flying this kind of passenger and taking responsibility for his life for however long it may be.
How do I explain not being able to see three taxiway lights in front of me to a crowd that says, "anyway you autoland in fog"? How?
It's at the brink of frustration that I'm writing this. Back in the day, an old grey instructor told me, "Son, in this world of civil aviation, its best to be a nameless faceless pilot who does his job and goes home!"
I probably didn't understand it then but now, more than ever, I totally understand. The sad part is it doesn't matter if it is a Cactus 1511 with Sully or the 9W aircraft.
Sadly, with technology improving in the home and workplace, the human has become the weak link. Sometimes one must note that the human is the strongest link. Without them shutting down the malfunctioning engine, the plane might have gone into the terminal, increasing the statistics of loss of life
As an appeal to the non-aviation public, believe that we as pilots love what we do and would never put anyone's life in jeopardy. We are sons, daughters, wives, husbands, parents, just like you. We haven't fallen from the realm of Asgard into the helm of these metal ships. It takes years of hard work to achieve it.
Media folk, this is an appeal to you: It's you who have sensationalised our profession with scandals, malpractices, and so on. Paint the right picture of pilots worldwide. Tell people that we are there to save lives, not take them. Make an honest effort to redeem your name when you're standing at heaven's gates, or you'll probably have the boatman remove you from the boat.
Educate the masses - who you manipulate to get more views - to the actual facts of thrust, lift, weight and drag. Tell them, from start to finish, what happens from takeoff to touchdown.
Do tell them that when they see the wind looping out of the window and the tip moving, there is a hand guiding this giant metal bird through the skies.
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Re: 9w 2374

Postby KL-666 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:05 am

All true what the man says. Do not trust media hypes, but trust the final report. It will show asymmetric thrust and the impossibility to handle that.

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Re: 9w 2374

Postby HJ1an » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:09 am

Not to question the pilot, but I'm trying to understand how the plane could continue turning right after they had rejected takeoff (by this I assume it means cutting engine power)?

Only can think of 3 things:

1. The plane had already left the runway, and the main gear was already dragging the soft ground. In which case they didn't react quick enough (again, not to undermine the pilot, but isn't it one of those things that you'd spot immediately, unless you're not looking at out the window?)

2. The engine was unresponsive to throttle.

3. There was a jammed brake on the main gear / unaligned nose gear causing this


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