bomber wrote:Now you say you've had this private debate whether to allow name calling or not and I can only assume that you've instructed Lydiot that he can't.... but you didn't tell me or everyone else on this forum that the rules have changed. So I must assume (again) that it's only Lydiot that can't name call, maybe even Jwocky but I can't be sure and nor could Lydiot.
The rules had not changed. Nor for Lydiot, nor JWocky, nor everyone else.
Lydiot and JWocky can keep the insult-circle and we as forum still have no tool for punishment.
We can say as moderators we think you've gone too far. But objectively, we can't say--nor we have said--: What you've done is explicitly outruled here.
We did call for a Walk-away of a circular heating confrontation. But as an advise. If they take it great, if not, then down-the-line one or the other is going to break again, anyways.
bomber wrote:So Vincent attempts to have a conversation/debate 'after the fact' of issuing a private demand to an individual user with regards his actions..
Why ?
You've already decided the new rules, you didn't involve any of the users who originally came here on the grounds that they could let off steam and call bugman a wanker... so why have the conversation at all..?
Was their ever the possibility that if the community had decided that name calling as it was a 'founding action' of this forum should remain a right of all it's users, that you'd contact Lydiot and tell him "yeh you can go slag off Jwocky, the big girls blouse to your hearts content".... was their heck as like.
So owner(s) and moderators.... you've created this mess.
When what you should have done is to have
1) involved the community as a whole in a neutral discussion, ie naming no names or obvious quotes
2) made a proclaimation to this community about any resulting rule changes
3) privately informed Lydiot, Jwocky and me that it will not longer we tolerated that I call bugman a wanker,,, even if it is only a healthy past time.
As they say the ball is in your court.
Simon
Sure. But this is where I am doubtful.
Do you think we should want to change that rule?
I do enjoy acknowledgin' that bugman is a wanker (read an abuser); you know?
And I found it to be a defensible true, too.
and If we must change the rules just because Lydiot and JWocky can't get off each other's back?
Now: the center of this.
If Lydiot could make an effort to not initiate a flame to J. That'll be great. And If J initiates it, he shall know he is going to get catched in word-games, and from that either he knows when to back off and walk away. Cause let's face it. Lydiot never has shown a burn limit so I already know who is taking it all more personally.
If we can live with that, I guess I am in your boat Simon. Name calling is somehow a price we pay for Freedom of Speech. And in my opinion is an small fine.
What has always been a rule in this board is cyber-bullying or attacking a person on religion, gender or nationality. Sometimes one implies the other thou, and thus we walk a line to be careful on, here.
