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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

Postby IAHM-COL » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:53 pm

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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

Postby IAHM-COL » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:07 am

@SM
I imported your signs (from the repo) into the 3D version from the Gateway.
Now I have the most complete WED file. Which I'll export to the Gateway with the pertinent correction as found by Hyde, and your signs.

Also, I will build and terraGIT later, and after that I'll ask you to check the threshold file again :D

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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

Postby SHM » Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:50 am

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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

Postby IAHM-COL » Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:52 am

Hi @SHM, and @Hyde

I just pushed a Narita (RJAA) reconstructed with the updated Layout

The RWY should be in the proper place now.

I reverted SHM commit altering the threshold, because I understand this ok before. --and it was a layout problem instead.

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@SM: If we want to be very exact, a new threshold correction could be prepared.
The planes launch not that centered in the mid-line -- but certainly on the rwy

per example, this launching position of 16L is pretty skewed

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and now the layout is good.

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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

Postby Hyde » Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:19 am

Thank you but still shifted left both 34L and 34R about 50ft which means airport position should be aligned.
And 16L position.runway was extended. Need to change as you said. Terrasync isn't updated yet though.

BTW, could you modify the RJTT a bit?
Ebitori river position is not correct and annoying when landing 34L. It should be sea just before touch down but lots of building there.
It should have been corrected when 05/23 runway added but not.
Of course if you can do.
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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

Postby IAHM-COL » Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:22 am

Hyde wrote:Thank you but still shifted left both 34L and 34R about 50ft which means airport position should be aligned.
And 16L position.runway was extended. Need to change as you said.


Hi Hyde.
The airport (RJAA) runways lengths and positions are now in agreement with sattelite views. This is the rwy is correct.
The correction for the aircraft launching in the rwys is done by fixing the threshold file.

I was hoping SHM knows well how to fix this, and maybe he can push a correction for RJAA soon.

Terrasync isn't updated yet though.


In the current status, terrasync is not updating. and that's it. (not yet. not at all)

BTW, could you modify the RJTT a bit?
Ebitori river position is not correct and annoying when landing 34L. It should be sea just before touch down but lots of building there.
It should have been corrected when 05/23 runway added but not.
Of course if you can do.
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Thank you.


Changing that is doable. It implies landclass improvements. Again SM knows howto.
Unfortunately, I don't foresee making major changes in the landclass definitions for Japan, immediately soon.

(or in other terms, these landclass errors in Japan, such as Tokyo city in RJTT surroundings, will remain there for a while. Unless SM can make a quick change there)
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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

Postby SHM » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:56 pm

IAHM-COL wrote:(or in other terms, these landclass errors in Japan, such as Tokyo city in RJTT surroundings, will remain there for a while. Unless SM can make a quick change there)
If its just that small portion, I'll fix it.

Hyde wrote:runway was extended

Does that mean that the satt image is not updated yet?
I'll check with the AIP charts and tell the length.
Edit : This is what it says
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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

Postby Hyde » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:47 pm

SHM wrote:
IAHM-COL wrote:(or in other terms, these landclass errors in Japan, such as Tokyo city in RJTT surroundings, will remain there for a while. Unless SM can make a quick change there)
If its just that small portion, I'll fix it.
Thank you. It was long existing issue since I participated to FG. I'm looking forward to see the clean sea aria.

SHM wrote:
Hyde wrote:runway was extended

Does that mean that the satt image is not updated yet?
I'll check with the AIP charts and tell the length.
Edit : This is what it says
16R/34L 4000mx60m
16L/34R 2500m×60m
The runway was short before. It was extended when it became to use. Satt image is correct. Terrasync is still old.

Why don't you update the apt.dat of your fgdata correspond to terrGit? I mean FGmenber default scenery is terrGit hence apt.dat should correspond to terraGit.

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Re: Broken Airport runways or ones which need new layout

Postby SHM » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:18 pm

@IAHM-COL
As it stands now, I'll fix the RJTT area, but do you want me to get the OSM coastline, road, streams?

Also just a threshold file fix will do the job at Narita.


Hyde wrote: Why don't you update the apt.dat of your fgdata correspond to terrGit? I mean FGmenber default scenery is terrGit hence apt.dat should correspond to terraGit.

That is certainly possible but the problem is that you'll have to manually replace the apt.dat file or all should use the FGMembers fgdata which we can replace the apt.dat

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